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Why Peter Watts Got Boot-Fucked

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By now, the blogosphere is crammed with retellings of the incident involving Canadian SF writer Peter Watts at the Detroit border crossing. Dudgeon is high on both sides of the issue. There is an awful lot of passion flying around, most of it emanating from a lot of very indignant (and misinformed) people. As a Canadian SF writer (who also happens to be a security professional with practical training and experience in this area), I figured I'd weigh in and offer the following ...

Why Peter Watts Got Boot-Fucked by U.S. Border Guards


1. Peter was told to pull over. He pulled over (good), then got out of his car and demanded an explanation (bad).
  • This is bad because an international border is a controlled area under the supervision of trained enforcement professionals who are under standing orders to defend it. This involves considerable risk. People brings guns, knives and explosives to border crossings every day. And one of the red flags that signals the start of a potential critical incident is a lack of compliance.
  • When an enforcement professional pulls you over, it is known as a "stop." The proper behavior at a stop ... is to stop and await further instructions. This is for your safety ... AND theirs. Getting out and demanding a reason is construed as a "lack of compliance" (see above). Folks, this is the real world. Cops, borders guards, security officers get attacked routinely. They have the right to defend themselves. And defending yourself as a security professional means taking pre-emptive action.
  • Getting out of the car and asking what's going on is being construed by Peter's supporters as reasonable behavior. And it is. But not in a security-controlled area. The reasonable behavior in such an environment is to be compliant, patient and polite. This signals the cops/security guys that you represent no danger to them and are willing to cooperate. (Remember: they're scared, too.) Anything else is a red flag.
2. Peter did not receive an answer to his question. So he asked it again (bad).
  • Remember: controlled area. No answer is, in itself, an answer. I shall translate the lack of response from security-speak to civvy-speak: "Your question is secondary to the main issue. Right now, you are in danger because you have refused an order from armed security guys who would be forgiven for shooting you without a second thought. PLEASE! Shut up, sit down and let me do my job and I'll give you the information you want ... but on MY schedule, NOT yours. Remember: this is a security-controlled area. Therefore, the security guy's schedule prevails, not yours. My job is to protect you. Right now, the way I have to do that is by controlling your behavior for a little while. So sit down, shut up and be patient. Okay?" In a world of terrorism, vile criminal behavior and rampant psychosis, this is not an unreasonable request. It's not!
3. Peter was asked to get back into his car and did not (real bad ... and stupid).
  • Outright lack of compliance with a security officer = assault. You may not like it, but that's the law.
In Peter's version, he got "punched in the face, pepper-sprayed, shit-kicked, handcuffed, thrown wet and half-naked into a holding cell for three fucking hours, thrown into an even colder jail cell overnight, arraigned, and charged with assaulting a federal officer, all without access to legal representation (although they did try to get me to waive my Miranda rights. Twice.)." My question to Peter is: was it worth it? For your little tantrum and grand-stand there at the Detroit border crossing? And the mileage you're getting from it now?

My advice: go before the judge, be contrite and respectful, apologize in the most sincere and forceful language available to you and GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE. Fighting this battle on principle is a losing proposition. You'll face defeat and prove nothing. Accept the way things are, admit you made a mistake and learn from it. And give the security guys a break next time. The Sixties ended on September 11th, pal. Get used to it.

Comments

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[info]petite_lambda wrote:
Dec. 12th, 2009 09:34 am (UTC)
Wow, that was a very interesting perspective! It was one of the things that I'd never guess you were going to say, based on you being such a nice guy and all! :-)

It was a pleasant surprise. Unfortunately, I don't think many laypeople side with you on this issue. Right?
[info]timesygn wrote:
Dec. 12th, 2009 06:02 pm (UTC)

Hey, Ola. Good to hear from you.

In a previous draft of this post, I was going to mention Israel and the check-points (so of course I thought of you and Danny). Failure to comply at an IDF check-point no doubt leads to immediate use of overwhelming force (and for good reason). People here (particularly those who have never experienced real danger or faced critical incidents) don't know how good they've got it.
[info]gislebertus wrote:
Dec. 12th, 2009 10:47 am (UTC)
If I could hug a journal entry, this would be the one.
[info]timesygn wrote:
Dec. 12th, 2009 06:03 pm (UTC)

Aw shucks. It loves you too ...
[info]jeffpalmatier wrote:
Dec. 12th, 2009 07:23 pm (UTC)
In the 1986-87 school year, I went on a class trip to see a Shakespeare play in Canada. When we were going back across the border, one of our teachers warned us how a Canadian officer would come on the bus and ask us if we had anything to declare. She warned us not to make some smart comment because they could and maybe would detain us while they searched the bus just to pay us back for being American smartasses.
[info]timesygn wrote:
Dec. 12th, 2009 07:30 pm (UTC)

A little courtesy goes a long way ... particularly when dealing with enforcement officers IN ANOTHER COUNTRY!

Things have gotten a lot tighter at the American border (for good reason). What many people don't know is that the area within 50 miles of the American border is now designated the Border Security Zone and the security ROE (rules of engagement) are essentially military. Make a wrong step and they can detain, arrest and even shoot you. It's harsh, but it's the way things are right now. I say adapt and survive.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Dec. 15th, 2009 09:30 pm (UTC)
We Have Always Been at War With Oceania. I say "brainwashing is good."
[info]timesygn wrote:
Dec. 17th, 2009 09:21 pm (UTC)
Knee-jerk liberal outrage is to independent thought as masturbation is to real sex.

Grow up.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Dec. 18th, 2009 05:05 pm (UTC)
Yes, sir. Thank you, sir.
[info]puzzlehouse wrote:
Dec. 12th, 2009 11:30 pm (UTC)
I've had this same discussion with a friend, and I could not agree with you more. Thank you for a voice of reason and sanity amidst all the passion and supposition.
[info]timesygn wrote:
Dec. 12th, 2009 11:40 pm (UTC)

You're very welcome.

I'm not into proving anyone wrong. It's just that I do this kind of stuff for a living and so have a more rational and mature perspective. So thank you for recognizing that ...
(Anonymous) wrote:
Dec. 13th, 2009 12:21 pm (UTC)
Is there a (cold) war between U.S. of A. and Canada, perhaps?
...because I've observed this type of behaviour on behalf of border guards (once in my life) - when we were crossing the then East Germany - West Germany border in 1989.
[info]timesygn wrote:
Dec. 17th, 2009 09:22 pm (UTC)
Re: Is there a (cold) war between U.S. of A. and Canada, perhaps?

Then you don't get out enough. This sort of thing happens more often than you think. And it's usually spurred on by someone doing something stupid in a controlled area. Blaming The Man is a great way to deflect attention from one's own stupidity.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Dec. 13th, 2009 12:40 pm (UTC)
Never been happier...
Never been happier to live in EU instead of US. While obviously there are a security-sensitive situations everywhere, the law enforcement in Europe is (traditionally) not something you need to respond with "yes, sir!"/"no, sir!" kind of obedience, but a certain state service, given the extended privileges, but at the same time being closely watched to avoid overuse or abuse of said priviledges. Unlike in the country formerly known as the home of the free.
[info]timesygn wrote:
Dec. 17th, 2009 09:23 pm (UTC)
Re: Never been happier...

You don't need to bow and play the lick-spittle here, either. Just exercise a little common sense and courtesy (which, apparently, is a challenge for some people).
(Anonymous) wrote:
Dec. 13th, 2009 01:07 pm (UTC)
Get your facts straight...
This happened in Port Huron, not Detroit. And I'm not surprised he had a WTF? moment because he was LEAVING the US and was stopped between the tollbooth and the river. Exit inspections are an Iron Curtain tactic to which North Americans are understandably unaccustomed.
[info]timesygn wrote:
Dec. 17th, 2009 09:24 pm (UTC)
Re: Get your facts straight...

Exit inspections have been common at U.S. border crossings since 9/11.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Dec. 13th, 2009 04:51 pm (UTC)
I wonder how many of the people who are in an uproar about this would have raised even a peep about it if Peter Watts wasn't moderately famous. If we assume (as many of them seem to do) that this sort of thing is now commonplace, why do they only care when a celebrity is involved? I'd bet money that if this had happened to me, none of these people would do more than issue a polite "tsk-tsk"...
[info]timesygn wrote:
Dec. 17th, 2009 09:24 pm (UTC)

Agreed.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Dec. 13th, 2009 06:17 pm (UTC)
While I actually agree with this blogger about the particulars, that Peter shouldn't have done what he did, I still don't believe the response from the guards was proportional nor legal and they should be held accountable for their actions.

Also I think it is a little naive of you to say that Peter should apologise to the judge and move on. You are forgetting that Peter was charged with assault, and pleading guilty could land him in jail or force him to pay an expensive fine, as well as he'd now have this guilty charge on his record. This isn't standing up to your teacher and going to the principal's office for it, there are greater ramifications if he pleads guilty to this.

Lastly - while I appreciate the 60s are over, it's truly sad that people standing up for their rights is considered so distasteful to you. The 60s was a time of huge change, thanks greatly to the protests. Now I can tell that this blogger is someone who believes his rights should have been taken away courtesy of 9/11 and isn't someone keen to fight for his rights (exemplified in this sentiment: "Fighting this battle on principle is a losing proposition. You'll face defeat and prove nothing. Accept the way things are"), so I can't really change his mind on that, but there are people out there who think that such a change was inherently wrong and are still willing to risk their reputation for standing up for what they believe in, not just follow the status quo. You are very right, the 60s are done now, replaced with fear and complacency.
[info]timesygn wrote:
Dec. 17th, 2009 09:27 pm (UTC)

I still don't believe the response from the guards was proportional nor legal

Cite legal code and case reference for this claim.

Also I think it is a little naive of you to say that Peter should apologise to the judge and move on.

Under the circumstances, he has no other choice.

You are forgetting that Peter was charged with assault, and pleading guilty could land him in jail or force him to pay an expensive fine, as well as he'd now have this guilty charge on his record.

He should have thought of that before he decided to have his little hissy-fit at the border.

This isn't standing up to your teacher and going to the principal's office for it, there are greater ramifications if he pleads guilty to this.

No. It's standing before the judge and asnwering for your adult conduct. Any consequences are his to bear.
[info]atsiko.wordpress.com wrote:
Dec. 13th, 2009 08:41 pm (UTC)
It's interesting to read the perspective of someone in the field. I had no idea the Canadia/US border was such a warzone. Explosives and guns and knives, Oh my!

On the one hand, I appreciate that the border guards can be at risk in their job, though, really, that does not justify beating the shit out of anyone who so much as blinks at you. (Yes, yes, we don't really knowthe exact circumstances, so this is at best a general statement.)

On the other hand, considering the lack of good information out there, I can't really blame Peter for asking a question. I don't know how much he crosses the border, but nine out of ten people (in Missouri where I live) that I asked about border crossing procedures had no idea about any of this stuff, whether it's the 50(or 100?) mile "Border Zone", or the issue with random stops, or anything. Maybe the government ought to offer information for people who plan to cross the border, just so as they know what's possible.

In terms of the sixties being over, that's a pathetic attitude in my eyes. What's the risk of someone becoming a casualty in an attack in the US? Pretty damn small. It's unfortunate that the lower this percentage is, the more draconian you have to be to decrease it further, but that's how it is. I'd rather have my rights and take the risk, than have security but no rights. I accept that this is a philosophy evolving from no direct experience with situations such as Peter's.

Thank you for offering an informed perspective.
[info]timesygn wrote:
Dec. 17th, 2009 09:31 pm (UTC)

On the one hand, I appreciate that the border guards can be at risk in their job, though, really, that does not justify beating the shit out of anyone who so much as blinks at you.

He didn't blink. He wised off and refused to comply in a controlled area. Bad move.

(Yes, yes, we don't really knowthe exact circumstances, so this is at best a general statement.)

An inaccurate one, as it happens.

In terms of the sixties being over, that's a pathetic attitude in my eyes. What's the risk of someone becoming a casualty in an attack in the US? Pretty damn small.

They were saying the same thing back in 2000. Then someone flew an airplane into the World Trade Center. All it takes is one ...

I accept that this is a philosophy evolving from no direct experience with situations such as Peter's.

You are making an assumption about the writer and his personal experiences for which you have no basis. And, as it happens, you are wrong.
[info]uplinktruck wrote:
Dec. 13th, 2009 09:11 pm (UTC)
Bravo! You are dead on right on every point. Thanks.
[info]timesygn wrote:
Dec. 17th, 2009 09:31 pm (UTC)

You're welcome.
[info]matt_arnold wrote:
Dec. 14th, 2009 04:04 pm (UTC)
Over-estimating the danger you are in doesn't make you a brave security professional. It makes you a cowardly one.

Over-estimating the danger the person you are guarding is in doesn't make them safer. It makes you harass and bully them.
[info]uplinktruck wrote:
Dec. 15th, 2009 02:20 am (UTC)
Actually Matt, over-estimating the danger you are in makes you a police officer, security professional, body guard, etc with a long and healthy life span. One that lives long enough to collect retirement.

Police officers (we'll use the term generically to cover all the police agencies out there, including US Border Patrol) that under estimate the danger they are in end up dead. Or their partners end up dead. Or some innocent by stander ends up dead.

I know you see the world a little differently then I do. I can respect that. But you should at least try to respect the things the owner of this blog obviously knows and the things I have seen first hand.
[info]timesygn wrote:
Dec. 17th, 2009 09:31 pm (UTC)

And you are basing your views on how many years experience in the security field?
[info]uplinktruck wrote:
Dec. 18th, 2009 01:54 pm (UTC)
I'll answer that for him. Matt has no time in the security field. Sadly he holds views of the world that are immature and do not have both feet in reality. For the most part he is a nice enough guy. And I say that even though I am on his shit list right now.

He found his way here via my blog.
[info]ltmurnau wrote:
Dec. 14th, 2009 07:12 pm (UTC)
I agree completely with your evaluation of what he did to get "boot-fucked". And of course no one is around to corroborate his story about being punched, kicked, pepper-sprayed, cuffed, stripped, and thrown in a cell. Perhaps all of that happened to him; these days, we are more likely to believe that it did than it didn't.

What is known, by his own admission, is that he wised off in the wrong way, in the wrong area, to people who could do all those things to him almost with impunity. He has learned what most of the people in the world already know: the man with the badge and gun (and sometimes just the gun) can tell you what to do or not do, and you'd better do (or not do) it.

But that doesn't make what happened to him right, only inevitable.

Any thoughts on why this happened to him while leaving the US? My normal experience with US border guards is that they are wary of letting you in, but only too happy to let you get out... into the arms of the Canadian border guards, who always seem to be angry that you left Canada in the first place!
[info]timesygn wrote:
Dec. 17th, 2009 09:33 pm (UTC)

Not sure, LT. All my info is based on rading the original blog entry. As it happens, exit inspections are common in the US these days. And I think that's what got him a little tetchy.
[info]ltmurnau wrote:
Dec. 17th, 2009 11:17 pm (UTC)
See, that's what I was wondering about - in all my years of travelling back and forth (not as much as some but enough for me), I have never had an exit inspection.
[info]timesygn wrote:
Dec. 17th, 2009 11:56 pm (UTC)

They do them randomly, and tend to focus on people of U.S. or Middle-Eastern citizenship.

Not fair, but ... times being what they are ...
[info]ltmurnau wrote:
Dec. 18th, 2009 12:29 am (UTC)
Well, I've always looked like a law-and-order type too I suppose. When I was in the Forces my military ID card used to get me through anything, no questions asked. I think today they are not so forgiving.
[info]timesygn wrote:
Dec. 18th, 2009 02:04 am (UTC)
Yeah, times have changed, particularly for our friends in the good ol' US of A ...

But I figure if you mean them no harm, you're more or less OK ...
(Anonymous) wrote:
Dec. 14th, 2009 08:17 pm (UTC)
US Home Land Security border guard’s hospitality
Few years ago I went through Niagara Falls by train. I went to USA with an employment letter and a Canadian passport. The US Home Land Security border guards turned me back to Canada on the spot. Before I could return to Canada, they asked me to fill up a form that required 4 generations (my children, myself and my wife, my parents, and my grand parents) of personal details. The US wanted the names, dates of birth, addresses of home and work, medical conditions, etc. It took me 2 hours to fill half of the information they wanted, because the other half information I simple did not know. Of course, mug shot, and finger printing were part of the treatment. The guards told me all those information would be entered into US Home Land Security database, so I better filled the form carefully. The guards took my cell phone right away when I tried to contact my employment agency for help. I learnt real quick not to offend them in any way, otherwise I was sure I would be ended up like Peter in US jail that day or they would point their guns at me.

The irony was that there was a big poster in the US border guardhouse. It reminded the guards "you are the face of USA, smile and be helpful to the visitors entering USA."

Anybody doubts Peter's mistreatment, maybe he should get a taste of the US Home Land Security border guard’s hospitality, get a real feel about getting humiliated, then he probably won’t side with US border guards so fast.
[info]timesygn wrote:
Dec. 17th, 2009 09:34 pm (UTC)
Re: US Home Land Security border guard’s hospitality

Solution: don't go there.

I don't.
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